John and Chino discuss the tragic impact of divine healing doctrines in faith-based groups, beginning with personal reflections and experiences. Their conversation highlights how misinformation and conspiracy theories in religious communities can lead to dangerous health decisions. Chino then shares the coroner’s report detailing Hobart Freeman’s death from untreated diabetes, illustrating the severe consequences of rejecting medical care. They read and reflect on an email from a former member of Freeman’s Faith Assembly, revealing how cult-like environments restrict access to information and suppress critical thought, especially around death and illness.<br /><br />The episode explores the long-term emotional and spiritual aftermath for those who left Faith Assembly, including interviews and personal stories from survivors. They trace the doctrinal lineage from early Pentecostal figures like Dowie and Bosworth through William Branham and onto Hobart Freeman. The discussion reveals how core theological errors—such as misinterpretation of scripture, especially Mark 11:24—were passed down and intensified, culminating in real-world tragedies including preventable deaths. They emphasize the need for scriptural accuracy, critical thinking, and accountability. The conversation closes with a powerful call to evaluate healing claims against biblical patterns and historical evidence.<br /><br />00:00 Introduction<br />01:35 Diabetes, Healing Beliefs, and Dangerous Alternatives<br />05:03 When False Hope Replaces Medicine<br />07:20 Freeman’s Autopsy and Untreated Illnesses<br />08:45 A Listener’s Email: Joining and Leaving Faith Assembly<br />11:03 Controlled Information and Cult Dynamics<br />13:00 Dr. Freeman’s Shift from Charisma to Fear<br />14:52 Ongoing Impact and Hundreds of Tragic Outcomes<br />17:03 A New Contact and Their Long Journey Out<br />19:05 Remembering Eevee and Others Lost<br />23:00 The Legal Changes and Religious Defense Loophole<br />25:00 More Stories of Loss from the Community<br />27:00 Why Didn’t They Just Leave?<br />30:03 Promoting Education and Free Information<br />31:01 Freeman’s Attacks on Institutions<br />34:05 Shifting Theology After Leadership Loss<br />36:06 The Baptist Hypocrisy and Mentorship Chain<br />38:08 Hobart Freeman’s Connection to Branham<br />40:01 Hobart’s Theology Taken to the Extreme<br />42:59 How Fast Did Biblical Healings Happen?<br />44:34 Freeman’s Record vs. the Bible’s Record<br />46:09 The Central Verse of Hobart Freeman’s Ministry<br />49:56 Hobart’s Foundational Story of a 40-Day Fast<br />53:06 Where Freeman Got His Theology<br />54:13 Branham and the Influence of Bosworth and Dowie<br />57:01 Dowie’s Scheme and the Origin of Delayed Healing<br />59:32 The Pattern of Repeating Errors<br />1:00:10 Chino Reflects on Why Freeman’s Teachings Were Enough<br />1:01:02 How a Fake Halo Photo Fueled the Movement<br />1:02:24 Hobart’s Shifting Stance on William Branham<br />1:04:45 Romans 10:17 and the Faith Tape Doctrine<br />1:07:00 Manipulated Imagery and the Hollywood Effect<br />1:07:56 Bag of Tricks: Recognizing the Pattern<br />1:08:17 Is the Foundation Scriptural?<br />___________
